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You all need to get a live go on line or do some research ill bet the police officers in whole in the usa are a much better and kinder police force than almost any other country if the baby criminals think usa police are ruff sent them to China Russia north Korea hell must be 100 other countries were they would be shot first police won’t even try arrest them alive. If criminals don’t want an officer kneeling on them they should stop being a criminal. Those who don’t want the police kneeling on criminals who are not criminals themselves should step in and show the officer how to do it. Of course it’s easier to say the police can’t do certain things but it’s not so easy to show how to do it another way or do it themselves. So Dan Drake you have convicted people already when they are being arrested. So therefore in your eyes every one who is stopped by the police is a criminal. Even if they have never been to jail or convicted of a crime. Now there are ways of controlling someone with out putting them in a choke hold are putting a knee on their head or neck. It is called judo holds, yeah which one is the choke hold, but there are ways of controlling a person just by the use of their hand and arm. It can be done and I will say I have seen it done. I would like to see you use one of these holds on someone is a lot bigger than you and they are not being co-operative. You are going to use whatever means you can to protect yourself and effect the arrest. In order to use these judo holds you have to be taught and you have to practice them all the time, I know my son is into marshal arts and is a black belt and I watch him practice all the time, but not everyone has the time or the training. my son is also into judo, or I should say was. Now a retired MMA fighter. Most police academy’s did teach judo at one time. If you get the basic of these hold you do not have to practice them all the time. Unless you are one those people who can’t walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Sorry even a small whomp of a man can take down the biggest of men if they know the basic technique. So sorry what you are throwing on the wall is not sticking with me.